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DESCRIMINATOR CHIP PIN OUTS

A lot of interest has been generated about how to 'hook up' your scanner in order to receive and demodulate POCSAG (Pager Alphanumeric Codes).

In order to do this it is a MUST to supply 'clean audio' to the interface. Most scanners 'filter' the audio before it gets to the speaker, causing much of the needed low frequencies to be removed. This is usually why you cannot 'get anything' when you use some interfaces with PD203, Cylex etc. The best place to 'take off' the audio is at the "FM Descriminator" chip, where the Frequency Modulated (FM) audio is demodulated into AM Amplitude Modulated audio.

Most people use the small 'test lead 'push type' grippers to clip onto the appropriate leg. and bring that out to a chasis mount RCA female jack.

Below is a LONG LIST we found on the net,and contains many of the most common "FM DEscriminator Chips" and what leg to 'tap off of' If your model is not listed, the chip numbers are usually printed on top, so you can still identify most of them.

                                CKT     RF-in   SCAN    AUDIO

SCANNER         NFM CHIP TYPE   SYMBOL  Pin     Pin   BASEBAND

=============== =============== ======= =====   ===== =========

                MPS5071         n/a     16      13      9
AR-1000         TA-7787AF       IC-4    16     none     9
AR-2002         MC-3357P        IC-4    16      13      9
AR-2500         TA-7761P        IC-13   16              9
AR-3000         MC-3357P        ?       16      13      9
AR-800          MC-3361N        IC-200  16      13      9
AR-900          MC-3361N        IC-201  16      13      9
AR-950          MC-3361N        IC-201  16      13      9
AR-8000 NFM     TK10489M or-85M U1      20     16-17    11
AR-8000 WFM/AM  TA7792F         U3      16       -      8
BC-100XL        MC-3359P        IC-1    18      15      10
BC-100XLT       TK-10421M-2     IC-401  20      16      11
BC-140XLT       MC-3359P        IC-1    18      15      10       *
BC-200XLT       TK-10421M-2     IC-401  20      16      11
BC-205XLT       TK-10421M-2     IC-401  20      16      11
BC-250          ?               IC-3    16      13      9
BC-2500XLT      TK-10930VTL     IC-201  24      -    12-FM  13-AM
BC-3000 NFM/AM  TK-10930V       IC-202  24      -    12-NFM 13-AM
BC-3000 WFM     TK-10489M       IC-203  20     16-17    11
BC-350A         NJM-3359D-A     IC-3    18      15      10
BC-400XLT       NJM-3359D-A     IC-1    18      15      10
BC-560XLT       NJM-3359D-A     IC-1    18      15      10
BC-700A         NJM-3359D-A     IC-3    18      15      10
BC-760XLT       NJM-3359D-A     IC-2    18      15      10
BC-800XLT       MC-3359P        IC-1    18      15      10
BC-8500XLT      MC-3361BP       IC-9    16      13      9
BC-855XLT       TK-10421M-2     IC-401  20      16      11
BC-890XLT       NJM-3359D-A     IC-3    18      15      10
BC-950XLT       NJM-3359D-A     IC-2    18      15      10
HX-1000         TK-10420        U-201   16      13      9
MR-8100         NJM-3359D-A     IC-3    18      15      10
MX-5000         MC-3357P        IC-4    16      13      9
MX-7000         MC-3357P        IC-4    16      13      9
PRO-2002        MC-3357P        IC-101  16      13      9
PRO-2003        MC-3357P        IC-104  16      13      9
PRO-2004 NFM/AM TK-10420        IC-2    16      13      9 (TP4)
PRO-2004 WFM    KB4419A         IC-1    1       -       6 (TP3)
PRO-2005 NFM/AM TK-10420        IC-2    16      13      9 (TP2)
PRO-2005 WFM    KA2243N/HA12413 IC-1    1       -      10 (TP1)
PRO-2006 NFM/AM TK-10420        IC-2    16      13      9 (TP2)
PRO-2006 WFM    KA2243N/HA12413 IC-1    1       -      10 (TP1)
PRO-2011        TK-10420        IC-1    16      13      9
PRO-2020        MC-3357P        IC-101  16      13      9
PRO-2021        TK-10420        IC-2    16      13      9
PRO-2022        MC-3361N        IC-1    16      13      9
PRO-2023        NJM-3359D-A       ?     18      15      10
PRO-2024        MC-3361N        IC-2    16      13      9
PRO-2025        NJM-3359D-A     IC-1    18      15      10
PRO-2026        NJM-3359D-A     IC-7    18      15      10
PRO-2027        MC-3361N        IC-2    16      13      9
PRO-2028        NJM-3359D-A     IC-2    18      15      10
PRO-2030        NJM-3359D-A     IC-3    18      15      10
PRO-2035 NFM/AM TK-10420        IC-2    16      13      9 (TP2)
PRO-2035 WFM    KA2243N/HA12413 IC-1    1       -      10 (TP1)
PRO-2042 NFM/AM TK-10420        IC-2    16      13      9 (TP2)
PRO-2042 WFM    KA2243N/HA12413 IC-1    1       -      10 (TP1)
PRO-23          MC-3361BD       IC-1    16      13      9
PRO-26 NFM/AM   TK-10930V       IC-14   24      -    12-NFM 13-AM
PRO-26 WFM      TK-10489M       IC-16   20     16-17    11
PRO-31          TK-10420        IC-1    16      13      9
PRO-32          TK-10420        IC-101  16      13      9
PRO-34          TK-10420        IC-101  16      13      9
PRO-35          TK-10421M-2     IC-401  20      16      11
PRO-36          TK-10420        IC-101  16      13      9
PRO-37          TK-10420        IC-101  16      13      9 (TP103)
PRO-38          MC-3359P        IC-1    18      15      10
PRO-39          MC-3361N        IC-201  16      13      9
PRO-41          MC-3359P        IC-1    18      15      10
PRO-42          MC-3361N        IC-2    16      13      9
PRO-43          TK-10427/-10420 IC-301  16      13      9
PRO-44          MC-3361N        IC-201  16      13      9
PRO-46          TK-10421M-3LT   IC-401  20      16      11
PRO-51          MC-3361BD       IC-1    16      13      9
PRO-60          ?               IC-301  16      13      9
Icom R-1 NFM    TK-10487  DET-A IC-1    20      Q1      11
Icom R-1 WFM    TA-7787AF DET-B IC-1    16       7      9   
Icom R7100      Said to be "top of R230 on the top of main PCB"   *
R-1600          NJM-3359D-A     IC-2    18      15      10
R-4030          TK-10421M-2     IC-401  20      16      11
SR-15           TK-10421D-2     IC-1    16      13      9
StandardCCR708A TK-10420D       Q602    16      13      9         *
TurboScan 2     3130-6056-502   U-201   18      ?     10 or 16
Yaesu FRG-9600  MC-3357P           ?    16      13      9         *
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* Not personally verified 

UNIDEN SCANNERS and Realistics made by Uniden =======================================
Uniden does their darndest to make it difficult to hack their scanners. You guys have some work to do. Here's the deal: Even though all NFM discriminator chips have a SCAN CONTROL pin, Uniden doesn't always use it! Some Uniden scanners have a separate Squelch circuit with the SCAN CONTROL pin on the discriminator unused! You have to find the real Squelch circuit, and then determine the Logic for that circuit. It's easy, but differs from one scanner to the next, and we can't cover them all.

See Table 2 below for a good reference. By and large, those with scanners of Uniden origin have to tackle the preliminaries in this fashion:

1. Locate the NFM Discriminator chip - you will find the Audio pin from Table 1. It remains valid.
2. Determine if the SCAN CONTROL pin on that chip is used. (Follow its trace out on the PCB)

A. If so, then determine the logic order. If the SCAN CONTROL pin is used, then we can use it!
B. If the SCAN CONTROL pin is not used, then locate the real Squelch circuit. The schematic and block diagrams in the service manual will be helpful. Uniden uses chips like NJM2902, NJM2904 & NJM3403 to generate Squelch logic. Use your voltmeter to find a spot where the Squelch logic is 0v and 5 or 8v, depending on the setting of the Squelch control. Table 2 shows details for those Uniden-made scanners with which we are familiar.

                   TABLE 2
             UNIDEN SQUELCH CHIPS
              Updated  4/08/96

Scanner     SQ Chip    CktSym  Pin
=========== ========== ======= ====

PRO-26      NJM3403AV  IC-17    14
BC-890XLT   NJM2902N   IC-8      7
BC-2500XLT  NJM3403AV  IC-204   14
BC-8500XLT  NJM2904M   IC-8      7
BC-350A     NJM2904S   IC-552    8
BC-700A     NJM2904D   IC-11     7
PRO-51      NJM2902V   IC-4      8
PRO-2030    NJM2904S   IC-10     8


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